any ideas of history/origins of Apollo Space program samples in electronic dance music? (Q via maillist, pls help) http://tinyurl.com/cdx84e
I'm on a maillist which discusses EDM (electronic dance music) and one of the members/list managers, Graham St John (an Australian scholar who has compiled a few books on EDM) has asked about origins of samples from the Apollo Space mission in music. he's asking specifically about dance related music but the discussion has brought up Sun Ra's name. so I was wondering if anyone here knows of examples/history along hip hop / funk /soul / electro (80s, not 2000s) & electronic dance music lines which might help plot the history deeper? (the discussion then went onto alien imagery at some psytrance events but that's another topic)
here's the initial request from Graham St John :
I'm attempting to trace the appeal of Apollo Space Program dialogue
in EDM. I've been tracing this development in Goa/psytrance to Astral
Projection and and I don't really go further back than Juno Reactor,
but I'd be surprised if Apollo mission dialogue was not sampled by
Detroit techno artists in the eighties, with the use or repurposing of
the new audio devices roughly coinciding it seems with NASAs launch of
the first African American (male) into space in 1983 (and probably a
range of influential arcade games). This was of course after the
wholly white Apollo Program had finished.
Appreciated if anyone has insights on this or on the presence of such
dialogue in other EDM genres such as electro, euro-trance, trancecore,
hardhouse and progressive trance.
Pump Up The Volume (MARRS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B87snXgV7Pg via Edgar Crook (facebook)
- though it seems to be the video clip rather than audio sample
Eno's Apollo Soundtrack via Raymond Daniel (facebook)
via Christopher Landis Shively
hyperreal list :
I might be mistaken, but wouldn't the "roger copy" sample in "helter
skelter" by meat beat manifesto fall under this umbrella? it's from
+ I saw that wikipedia has this page :
He still made "break-in" records, keeping an eye for a potential topic to skewer - the Batman television series ("Batman and His Grandmother,") the Apollo space mission ("Luna Trip"), or campus unrest ("On Campus"). Ever since the days of "The Flying Saucer," Goodman always resolved to use the original fragments of songs, eschewing cover versions or "sound-alikes" unless absolutely necessary. "There was a time in the 1950's," said Jon Goodman, "where it would be more acceptable to play the remakes done by white people. The subliminal effects were much greater - people were listening to records by artists they would not have heard before on white radio."
In fact, Goodman's snippet records may have been the rock equivalent of the compositions of John Cage, David Tudor and George Rochberg - using tape recorders and phonograph records as instruments, slicing up reel-to-reel tapes and resplicing them at random; creating new recordings from the fragments of old ones.
Sieges Even - "Paramount" (2007) - Andy Read's Review
if I hear of more I'll pass them on. might even go through some of my early dance parties / late 80s music in case there's something there.
other finds (internet searches) :
"High Roller" by The Crystal Method via wiki answers
I started reading through my old Localizer 1.0 technohouse book and googled some of the names in it...
WE CALL IT TECHNO! documentary
http://www.sensemusic.de/ - WE CALL IT TECHNO! tells the story of a tempestuous phase in music history, the first time that pop culture was created significantly in Germany. With exclusive interviews and comprehensive, mostly unreleased film and photo archive material from the years 1988-1993!
- OST: http://www.discogs.com/release/1388974 - 3 Phase feat. Dr. Motte - Der Klang Der Familie Bam Bam - Give It To Me Cosmic Baby - Cosmic Trigger 4 Cosmic Baby - Galaxia Cosmic Baby - New Zone Cybersonik - Technarchy Dance 2 Trance - We Came In Peace D-Shake - Yaaaah! Eon - Spice F.U.S.E. - FU2 F.U.S.E. - Substance Abuse Frankie Bones - Call It Techno Kid Paul & The Weird Club - Acid In My House Komakino - Dynacore Mark N-R-G - Turn The Bass Microbots - Cosmic Evolution Microglobe - What Is Space Nitzer Ebb - Warsaw Ghetto Ongaku - Mihon 3 Resistance D. - Cosmic Love Sequential - Ambiant Block Sequential - Sonne Space Cube - Pure Tendency T-Bone Castro - Wize Guys Are Freakin' Lower Teste - The Wipe Break Boys - My House Is Your House Overlords - Sundown Thomas P. Heckmann - Floatation Thomas P. Heckmann - The Sound Of Colour Umo Detic - Fahrenheit
09:38 : UFO club - Berlin, early acid house scene - technohouse
cyberspace technocenter @ UFO club - Berlin
cyberspace flyer :
dj tanith's chart :
music track listing :
Apollo Records was an ambient label - a sub label of the well known R&S records (which we used to joke & say all the good tekno cds had black covers as many of the R&S records cds did)
"every night for six or seven years, I listened to APOLLO" (Brian Eno's keynote ambient statement) "I would put it on repeat play, every night I would sleep with this music" indicates Max
already mentioned in the dancecult-l thread/s (amongst other things) :
Astral Projection (via Graham St John)
Juno Reactor (via Graham St John)
VNV Nation‚Äôs 2002 album Futureperfect has the track "Genesis" which opens with audio of an Apollo 8 astronaut reading the creation story from the Bible (via John Gunders)
CCCP 1961 record - Conquest of Space (via Graham St John)